Sunday, September 6, 2009

the Van Jones situation...


It's Sunday morning. I'm on twitter and begin to notice all of the chatter about Van Jones stepping down from his post as Green Jobs Czar. Here is the actual back and forth I had this morning on twitter which inspired this blog entry...

AroundHarlemRT @blogdiva: Van Jones is a casualty because ColorOfChange went after Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs. Think about that.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem & Van did it all on vid...who's fault is that? I'm not saying he should have quit...but I understand. Don't embarrass the presabout 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy Can't debate Van Jones in 140 but if 1 of America's basic principles is Freedom of Speech, why is anything any1 says a problem?about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to thed_weezy

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem i'm not sayin he "should've" have said it...i'm saying that there r positions where "we" have 2 b more careful than others...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem It ain't right, but it is what it is. Love u'r posts...it's my sunday paper:-)about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem I'm sorry, "tweets" not "posts"...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlemThere's a lot of name calling on twitter this morning. Many are upset about Van Jones #p2about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy Disagree.The days of #Blck people needing 2b careful r over. Its 2009. We hav a Black President aka Leader of the free world#p2about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Yeah...Skip Gates thought the same thing...they took his ass to jail all the same thoughabout 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem so if Brian Williams was found on tape saying, "I hate ni@@as." it's cool cause he's got free speech? Leave Beck alone then...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Free speech works both ways...Glenn Beck is an idiot, but he's got free speech too...right? Unless he disses Obama?about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem All i'm saying is that sometimes, there is a price for standing up for what you believe in and calling ppl ass holes...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Just like there's a price for calling blk women "nappy headed hoes" or calling the pres a "racist that hates white ppl",right?about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy I've NEVER mentioned Glenn Beck bc I dont hav a problem w/statement.Disagree but respect his right 2 say it.Free Speech 4 every1about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem So you think it's wrong that he's losing sponsors left & right? you feel sorry for him just like you do Van Jones?about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Beck's the elephant in the room...he said some things that "cost" him & so did Van...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlemRT @thed_weezy So you think it's wrong that he's losing sponsors left & right? you feel sorry for him just like you do Van Jones?about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Over all, I wish ppl would allow for folks to change their minds. Quote me years ago & u'll find stuff i'm really sorry I saidabout 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy Beck losing sponsors is a business decision made by private corporations. Those decisions hav nothing 2 do w/Freedom of Speech.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to thed_weezy

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem To err is human, to forgive...devine. The man said he was sorry and was doing something new he was good at...our loss indeedabout 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Beck says stupid shit everyday, he was losing sponsors because of the petition that (I know I did) most of us signed...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy Glad there were not 2 many people who thought like u in the 50s & 60s. Otherwise I'd still be sitting in the back of the bus.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to thed_weezy

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem How so? I'm all for change. I was front row with a yellow ticket back in Jan in DC! I'm down for the cause...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Hell, i'm in Alabama where there are billboards of Rush Limbaugh up like he's a hero/i hate some stuff that is/but it still isabout 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem & what I KNOW is real in this country is that life ain't fair. Van Jones proved that there's NOT really free speech...about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem But, that's the rule...it's not fair...but it is a rule. He broke it. That's an anti-civil rights train of thought? How so?about 4 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem Van J was honest, said what he thought, didn't care who heard or saw him, and it came back to bite him. Happens all the timeabout 3 hours ago from Tweed in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlem@thed_weezy Down 4 the cause means supporting laws of the US. ur comments go against that.u approve of public pressure that go against laws.about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to thed_weezy

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem i don't approve public pressure, i'm simply acknowledging they exist...about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem I'm a school teacher, by law, if they found me publicly drunk this weekend, they could fire me. that ain't right, but it is..about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem in order to fight any battle you need to know the rules of engagement. be they fair or not.about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AroundHarlem

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem and US laws have a history of not ALWAYS being fair. they change all the time...hence the supreme court interpretations.about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AroundHarlem

AroundHarlemI got up too early. Going back to bed.about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter

thed_weezy@AroundHarlem sweet dreams;-) wishing you visions of sugar plums (or at least that Pinkberry breakfast)about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AroundHarlem

Van Jones knew (or maybe he didn't but he probably should have known) that when you speak publically, you should always make an attempt to be professional. In my humble opinion, calling the opposing party ass-holes is less than professional. He also knows that in this country, be it right or wrong, that identifiying ones self as a communist, can cause political problems. And, he knows that this country has a history of holding people of African descent to a different scale of accountablility than of the majority race.(If ANY presidential candidate had the credintials of Barack Obama, he would have been a shoe-in...period.)Because of his race, there was still a questioning of his ablility to govern. This isn't fair but it is how it is in the good ol U. S. of A. Just like I think that Skip Gates should have known that the quickest way to go to jail is to argue and get smart with the police. (I'm not saying that you should be arrested if your only crime is to argue and/or get smart with the police.)
Van Jones had a history of saying what he thought how ever he wanted and it came back to bite him. Just like Glenn Beck, and just like Don Imus. Free Speech goes both ways whether you like what is said or not.

I'm Thed Weller and I approve this message.

4 comments:

the boss hogg said...

Thed, you are right on with this post! I was scared that you were defending Jones for a minute. WHEW!! The point is, whether you agree w/ Jones' policies or not, you have to know the rules of engagement like you said.If you don't know those rules, then you have no business advising the president. The truth is,even though we have freedom of speech, we can't always say what's on our minds unless we are willing to deal with the consequences that come along with voicing those thoughts.Obama has alot of ppl that want to make him into a socialist and obviously Jones didn't help Obama's case. My prediction is that Jones is only the first of a few more Czars that will be cut off.

Thed Weller said...

@the boss hogg wow...thed & boss hogg "agree" on a thedlitical post...maybe there is hope for health care reform after all;-) thanx for chiming in!

the boss hogg said...

healthcare reform? okay thed, now you're pushing it!! Let's stop while we have found something to agree on. LOL!!

Blaq Angel...Mr. Johnson to you. said...

glad I was able to witness this rosey reunion :)